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the first five minutes of an episode of" dallas" from 19788 which was hottest show from reality tv. who shot j.r. show, listeners or viewers will remember. it is amazing. ever can catch it on tv fascinating to watch because it is so, the relationship between the producers and the writers and the audience is so condescending. there is this very palpable sense that the creators of the show just think that the audience can't possibly understand who these characters are and they spend two minutes kind of going, these two people are brothers. did everybody get that? whereas show today, not just that edited more quickly, that they're able to kind of go much faster and challenge the audience. look at a show like, "lost" which was insanely complicated. that show would have never gotten anywhere near national television in 1977 or '78. so there is tolerance for complexity and, and being challenged that the audience has now that we didn't have when i was growing up. >> host: steven johnson is our guest on "in depth". bill in oklahoma, you are first up today. please go ahead with your question or comme
into the convention, and, you know, the front page of the dallas morning nudes, gop shifts on immigration. i mean, it was amazing to see that, wow, you know, we're going to come in here and label them this anti-hispanic, you know, anti-anything and it was a totally different route. then some people came to me, and some friends of mine said we've got to take this to the national level. and we went to the national platform in tampa and started talking about it, and we got a national guest worker endorsement on the republican national platform which was great. thought my work was over, and then election day hits, and wednesday my phone starts getting blown up again. you know, it's time to get back in the debate again. we need to start doing more, we immediate to start talking about this. i believe free market solutions are a part of this. i believe in strong border security. the anti-immigration groups will try to label us as open borders, big business, wants cheap labor. i can tell you if we can fund blackwater security forces in iraq -- and i'm not saying we use blackwater -- but some type of secu
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